Excited by my current Guildless campaign, I have been doing some research into early editions of The Dark Eye/Das Schwarze Auge, which were never released in English. The materials are hard to find, but with some dedicated Googling I was able to find a bare-bones retroclone of the first edition rules in English.
The concepts are interesting, but (like 0e Dungeons and Dragons) a lot of the info needed to actually run a game is missing (such as creating monsters, distributing treasure, etc.)–not sure if this is just missing from the fan translation of the rules or if they weren’t present in the original game.
I do love the attack/parry mechanic, class system, and the use of just a d20/d6, though, and have been rolling over a few house rules for if I want to give the system a try.
Monsters start with CO 5, AT 5+0, PA 5, LP 10, and PRO 0. Each point of CO, AT, or PA adds 1 to the “monster level”. Each point of PRO or DMG (damage bonus is indicated via the plus after AT) adds 2 to the monster level, and each life point adds .5 to the monster’s level. Approximately 10 points should be equivalent to a 1 HD monster in D&D.
Spells and other special abilities will act as a multiplier on the monster’s level rather than a simple add/subtract.
Monster and NPC damage will not be linked at all to the damage bonuses PCs gain from weapons–it is instead totally tied to monster level. A monster like a bandit, with a +0 dmg from a sword, could be looted and provide a sword to the victorious PC, which would then give the PC standard sword bonuses (assuming it’s the right size/style).
Bandit: CO 6, AT 10+0 (sword), PA 8, LP 10, PRO 1, ML 10.
Bandit Archer: CO 8, RT 10+1 (bow), AT 10+0 (dagger), PA 5, LP 10, PRO 0, ML 10.
Berserker: CO 8, AT 11+2 (axe), PA 5, LP 14, PRO 0, ML 15.
Ogre: CO 9, AT 14+5 (ogre club), PA 7, LP 24, PRO 3, Special: the ogre club is unbreakable, ML 40.
I could not find any rules for distributing treasure in the booklet I found, so I’m going to go with a Swords and Wizardry style distribution and assume there should be approximately 2-3 times as much silver per enemy as they possess Monster Levels. This is easy to do with a d6: they possess MLx(d6-1) sp.
One of my least favorite aspects of all versions of Dungeons and Dragons have been the prevalence of vanilla “plus” weapons. They’re just boring. A long sword +1 feels an awful lot like a purely mechanical reward–less “magic” and more “accountant”.
It takes very little imagination to add a minor cantrip or bit of flavor to a magic weapon to make it exciting, but it provides a tremendous amount of interest versus the simple “plus” bonus.
This is not to say that magic weapons should not come with plus bonuses, but these plus bonuses should reflect the magic nature of the weapon, not define it. Take a look at my Waxing Sun/Daylight’s End dual sword for an example of what I mean, and here are a few more sample items to illustrate how minor mechanical effects can add a lot of variety to low-level magic rewards.
I’ve been coming up with new spells for both clerics and magic-users for use in the City of Nightmares. The dungeon is based on a jailed god, the Waking Dreamer, and a cult of necromancers trying to gain control of the subterranean complex. Clerics gain spells dealing with the realm of sleep, while magic-users can begin the study of necromancy. Two samples:
Cleric, Level 1, Touch
The target of the Dream-Lock must Save -2 or be knocked unconscious. The target will be trapped in a labyrinthine dream for as long as the cleric maintains contact.
Magic-User, Level 2
A magic-user who desires to study necromancy should begin with the ability to Summon Imp. For one hour, the Imp will serve the at the MU’s beck and call, but if the MU does not take three minutes to undo the summoning before the end of the hour, the imp will turn on his master.
Over at Gothridge Manor there’s an excellent post on valuing gems. In a comment, I replied with my own (admittedly simplistic) version of gem valuing for S&W. If you’re interested:
Whenever a player tries to value an art or treasure piece, I secretly roll a d10. For every number BELOW 5, they undervalue it by 10%. For every number ABOVE 6, they overvalue the object by 10% (this can make for some regretful discards when they players are trying to decide what to load onto their mule). A 5 or 6 means they get the real value.
Tim adds the character’s INT bonuses and many social factors (style, etc.) into the equation, but I simply am not a fast enough thinker on my DM-feet to do this (plus, we play S&W, so there’s no INT bonuses). If a player has 15+ INT, I will adjust the d10 roll one closer to the 5-6 sweet spot (I do not tell my players this rule).
When the players go to sell in town, they will receive the price they ask if they are undervaluing the object (I don’t allow haggling in my game unless the players are buying or selling something story-related or epic in value, such as a warship or keep). If they overvalue the object, the shopkeeper refuses and will only give them the correct value of the object.
If players suspect that the object is undervalued, they can pay an appraiser 10-15 gp to analyze an object in any town with at least 1,000 people in it.
Here is a quick, unproofed copy of my take on the Thief for Swords & Wizardry (which I have previously stated is my current favorite retroclone). I hope you like it! I apologize for the short story that precedes the actual rules. Feel free to skip them, I put ’em in italics so they’re easier to pass over. If you play it, let me know how it goes. Please note that it is VERY unproofed, so if parts of it don’t make sense, are contradictory, or are embarrassingly expressed, please excuse me 😉
The smell of burned meat wafts from beneath the thick wooden door. Asgot crouches beside the portal, his nose pressed close to the floor. “Orcs,” he whispers to the three adventurers behind him, holding up a fist to silence their idle chatter.
He stands and begins examining the stone frame that surrounds the door. He finds no traps, and nods to his companions. They move into position before the door, while he fades back into the shadows of the corridor.
Grimholt the Mighty smashes the door down with a swing of his heavy maul, and Extar the Unfoolish follows with a bolt of arcane fire, burning the flesh from a surprised orc. As it falls, however, its companions howl with rage—their surprise and shock has worn off. The orcs lift wicked axes as other tip a long table onto its side, forming a barrier against the magic-user’s flames.
Ivan the Untouchable holds forth his holy symbol and prays to his golden goddess for protection, then charges headlong into the room, flanked by Grimholt and Extar. Arrows and handaxes fly his way, but seem to swerve aside just as their iron ought to bite into his flesh. His own mace crushes the bones of a scowling monster’s forearm as he swings with all his might.
For a moment, the three humans grow confident that they have the orcs on the run. A thunderous BOOM shakes them to their very bones, while the harried orcs let out a ragged cheer. A wide door on the far side of the room is flung open, revealing the meanest looking ogre that the adventurers have ever seen. A wide scar runs across its face, and the burn of dragonfire mars its flesh. A powerful-looking tooth hangs from a thong slung round its neck—the dragon had not burned the ogre with impunity.
Grimholt the Mighty falters, his usually unshakable courage failing him as he stares at this ogre that will mean their death. Extar begins casting, but his voice sounds feeble beside the battlecry of the beast. The orcs climb out of their hiding spaces, evil grins beginning to grow across their hideous faces.
Suddenly, a howl—not of rage, but of pain—splits the air in the room. The ogre looks down at a thin sliver of metal that extrudes from his chest. A cheery voice speaks out when the cry of the beast begins to fade.
“It looked like the right time to make my introduction,” the adventurers hear Asgot say. The wiry thief steps out from behind the teetering ogre, pulling his slender rapier from the beast’s back as he comes. The orcs gawk at the unassuming man who has effortlessly slain their most fearsome champion, and then their own courage breaks. They turn and run, and do not look back once.
The Thief is an optional addition to your retroclone fantasy roleplaying game, though he has been designed with Swords & Wizardry’s rules in mind. The purpose of the Thief is to create a martial character with the damage-dealing potential of the fighting man, but with enough utility to get the party out of sticky situations where swords alone wouldn’t suffice.
Don’t be confused—this is not your modern-edition Rogue, with epic trap finding and acrobatic abilities. The heroic character archetypes of popular MMORPGs and other pen-and-paper roleplaying games would be out of place in the gritty, dangerous world of 0e. Our Thief has his uses, but delivering damage from the front lines should rarely be one of them.
The Thief gains 1HD per level, with no bonus. He shouldn’t be as frail as a Magic-user, but the stalwart Cleric or Fighting-man has little need to worry about his position as the group’s toughest member.
The Thief shares his Save stat with the Fighting-man. He might not be the toughest guy on the team, but he is agile and tenacious, and clings to life at every opportunity. This is important, as many of the Thief’s skills depend upon Save rolls.
The Thief’s To-Hit/THAC0 scores are identical to the Cleric’s. He isn’t the finest fighter in the group, but he isn’t useless with a blade, either.
Finally, the Thief requires as many EXP to level up as the Magic-user. His job may look easy, but training one’s body to the finely honed level that a second-story man or ninja requires can be as difficult as learning to control the arcane forces that underpin the world.
A Thief can use any one-handed melee weapon except the bastard sword, and can dual-wield. He can wear only cloth and leather armor.
The Thief’s most infamous ability is also his most powerful. A Thief attacking an enemy that is distracted or unaware deals twice normal damage to his foe. It is up to a referee to determine when a foe is distracted or unaware, but we recommend that any lone foes that are being attack by two party members should be considered distracted, as well as any attacks made when the enemy is unaware of the Thief’s existence—such as sneak attacks from an upper story.
A Thief at level 9 can found a Thieves’ Guild in a city, attracting footpads and second-story men. This secretive organization can wield great political and economic power, and even military might if the master decides to turn it in the direction of a mercenary company.
A Thieves’ Guild will most often operate out of an abandoned-looking building or the sewers, and only the richest and most powerful will be able to operate in the open, out of a keep or mansion.
The Thief has the ability to pick through locked doors, although complex or magical locks can often be beyond his abilities. To represent a Thief’s burgeoning skills, all lockpick attempts are made as a Save roll. If the Thief saves, the lock is opened. If he fails, he cannot attempt to pick the lock again until he picks at least one other lock (a practice lock does not count).
It is recommended that the referee adds some small penalties to locks based on difficulty, but these changes should be small, and very rare—a level 20 Thief should be able to penetrate most locks, even if they are exceptionally well crafted. A penalty of -1 should suffice for most magical or physical distractions.
Most dungeon locks, even on rare treasures, will probably not have a penalty on them—perhaps only a single lock per floor would be enhanced in this way, and no more than a few per dungeon.
Note that this does not allow the Thief to detect traps on locked doors.
Like lockpicking, sneak checks are made by making a simple Save roll. Unlike lockpicking, the referee should frequently adjust the bonuses or penalties the Thief receives to this roll. Sneaking through total darkness should provide a bonus, for example, as should carrying an item enchanted with Silence 15’. Conversely, attempting to sneak up on alert guards in the middle of the day should be significantly more challenging. Bonuses should stack—sneaking with utter silence under pitch darkness should be easy for even a novice rogue, unless his quarry can see in the dark.